67. CAN CHRISTIANS BE FRIENDS TO THE LGBT


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So yeah, I mean… I will say that sometimes I do have that– that little thing in the back of my mind. Because, you know, my exposure to religion a lot was, of course, my family. You know? My dad has like finally come around and accepted the whole trans thing. Right? But the religious thing is like his line, right? And it’s just– I don’t know? Like I just find that so silly. You know? My dad even like has conversations with me on the phone where he’s like “You know, I know that there are people who are trans who run churches. And there’s these gay churches. And…”
[ mumbling ] You know? And it’s just like, it’s not… it’s not like I’m an atheist because I’m trans. And because this is something that like– you know, and I need like some excuse, this world view that helps me cope– No! I’m an atheist for so many other reasons, right? But my thing is this: I’m not gonna yell at my dad and tell him to let go of his, you know, imaginary fantasy land. Um… Even if I feel like that’s how I feel. I’m not gonna yell at him because it’s good for him. I– I– It helps him, he’s happy with it, good for him, whatever, whatever! But it sucks to me that he is struggling to have a relationship with me because of his religion. So sometimes, I always question… If I have a Christian friend, and I know that they’re Christian, I always think about, you know, if they’re like one day hoping that I’m just gonna c– I’m gonna have the “come to Jesus” moment. ‘Cause I’m just not, you know? My thing is this: I’ve always said to myself about religion, like if I, um… If I ever do become religious, it’s gonna be something that I come to. Listen, like I said, I went to private Christian school. I recorded a Christian album as a child, okay? I never had the choice to understand, um, you know, that there was more in this world but Christianity. You know? I was essentially indoctrinated, and I don’t think that that’s right. You know? I don’t think that that’s right. Um, I think, you know, it’s nice to be someone who is raised in a non-religious a– neighbor– neighbor. Non-religious environment, who eventually grow and withdrawn to orthodox Christianity. I think that’s great, right? I think that’s how people should be doing it, right? Of course, easier said than done. And I’m not mad at my parents for– for raising me Christian because, you know, it’s what made sense to them. You know? They were doing what they thought was right. And I’m not mad at them for it. But I’ve had to realize as an adult that I never had a choice. And maybe there’s a religion out there that makes sense to me, that I find is truthful. Um, and maybe one day I’ll gravitate towards it. But for now, that’s not where I’m at, right? But, um, you know, in terms of my friendships, I don’t care if you’re a Christian. I don’t. I think that if that’s something that helps you and makes you happy, then good for you! More support to you! Just don’t expect me to come over to your church. You know? Just don’t expect for me to do any of that– unless girl! Unless y’all doing some… I– If y’all cookin’. If y’all do some barbecue, you know? Girl! Girl call me! I’ll have some barbecue. Just don’t– just don’t read to me. But I will take your food. I will take those greens. I will take that cornbread. Girl, I’ll take those grits with sugar on them! Girl, don’t come for me! Um, you now what I mean? I’ll take all that! But please, don’t give me the word, okay? Anyway, that’s how I feel. You know, I have no problems being friends with Christians. You know, it’s– it’s whatever. I just– I like positive people. And when people offer pr– prayers for me, I’m always thankful. I have a friend who’s a witch for the love of god. Ironic.
[ blabbering ] I have a friend who’s a witch for the love of god. And they’re like always lighting altars for me and things like that. I’m like “You know what? Whatever!” It’s– I’m all about positive energy. There’s one like belief I have: it’s that you put positive energy in the world and you receive it back. So… Someone wants to pray for me, light an altar, do whatever they do; I’m very thankful for it. And I’m not gonna be like… I’m not gonna be one of those people who’s like “No! Don’t pray for me! I don’t believe in the sky daddy!” I don’t– no. I’m not one of those atheists. So yeah, that’s how I feel. Hopefully, I answered your question. Anyway, if you guys want my True Tea, please send me a short unlisted video or e-mail to [email protected] If you guys want this mug, you can get this mug and so much more at my society6 store. I’m again drinking CamilleLaLune tea. Moroccan Majesty. Moroccan Majesty. CamilleLaLune tea. Girl look at that! [ laughing ] Anyway, I’ll talk to you guys later! On that note, always remember and never forget that you are beautiful and you are loved. Bye! If you like this video, you can support my work by becoming a monthly Patreon patron. “Dear Kat, first I wanted to say that I’m white, I’m very aware of my privilege, and I in no way think that the way people of color are treated, especially in America, is okay. I also wanted to make it clear that I do not feel like I am being oppressed or treated wrong in society in any way–” [ outro instrumental ]

100 thoughts on “67. CAN CHRISTIANS BE FRIENDS TO THE LGBT”

  1. Thanks for bringing religion back into things, Kat. I know it's difficult given the…environment. But I've always thought you could serve as a unique and necessary bridge between atheist and black and LGBT communities.

  2. As a gay gender queer individual, who supports all forms of identity I can honestly say that every single Christian friend I've ever given a chance , regardless of whether they claimed they supported me publicly or privately have tried to change me.

  3. I live in a the town with the most churches per square capita in the USA (mainly Protestant), my mom is Catholic and my dad is Jewish), so religion is all around me, though I for one am not religious (I'm not an atheist either, I'm just think it's could go either way). But it's all around me, I know very liberal and LGTB+ friendly religious people like my parents and one of my best friends. I know my some who are moderate like a few of my other best friends. And I know a few who are really conservative and against LGBT+. I even know a few people who are really conservative but LGBT+ friendly so I've learned not to judge some one on their religion.

  4. I'm a born and raised Lutheran and I completely agree. Religion is something I try not to judge people for because I understand how important it can be to people. I once had a jewish teacher who took a day off for yam kippur, and when she came back said she had prayed for me. I was flattered. As long as you're not hurting anyone in the name of religion, I don't really care.

  5. I was raised Catholic, I am friends with religious and I respect that.

    Still I have a hard time disconnecting systematic sexism, homophobia, transphobia from religion. I always have a hard time connecting to how people justify the hate preached and ignoring it. I am happy that it makes them happy but I find it harder to respect their religion out and out when it has this thousands of years now of hate. Maybe some religions I don't know of don't have in their texts bigotry and maybe that faith could get me but otherwise I don't like getting the word. Prayers are great but I don't want to hear a passage.

  6. The thing is the nice Christians are most likely low key so you don't know they are Christian, outside of the more public social justice ones. I find what I see more generally in public is the more judgemental fanatical types. I find it weirds me out to be friends with someone who thinks I should/will/deserve to burn in this place they thought up called hell just for being, thinking, living not as they do. This is mentally toxic to me.

  7. I'm not religious though I was raised as a catholics. But I like to nag racist white christian by pointing that one of the biggest love text in the world, which is in the bible (don't know the name in english, in french it's the cantique des cantiques [some google after: song of songs]) is about the queen Sheba, a black woman, this particular line "I'm dark and lovely"[Song of Solomon 1:5, thks google]. I say ", god don't like a white girl, he like a black woman". BAM look at their face.

  8. Love this video. I'm the daughter of a preacher who spent my young life like you, Kat. Raised in the church and very very involved. And, I am an atheist and always have been. I'm grateful parents were very accepting of my non-belief. I in turn respected their belief. I consider myself very lucky to have been raised by conscious, open-minded humans and gravitate toward that type of human now. You're so fun and great to listen to.

  9. I'm a Christian and I appreciate your approach to religion. I have atheist friends who I can talk to about religion with zero problems. However, when you mentioned the ones who go out of their way to insult Christianity, that has been almost every white male atheist I've ever met. Or as I call them, the Westboro of the non believers. Angry, rude, terribly sexist, even at times racist (making fun of the black church) and using every played out trolling phrase in the book. Thats another issue within itself, though a trend, and I have lost a friendship because of that.

    Its every Christians hope for non believers to come to Christ so it's a responsibility at some point to discuss it. But if the idea is rejected you don't bully someone. You take it to God, hold them up in prayer and continue to be a good friend and hopefully be an aid if they change their minds. The majority of atheist Ive met feel the same responsibility for their views too. We can be friends, maybe not dropping it low at the club (joke) nor bible study type situations, but it is possible.

  10. Some can but they tend to be at odds with there own establishment. My grand cousin is a catholic priest but he's always in trouble because he's first the people than god and than the church. Guess that happens when a punk kid finds god ๐Ÿ™‚

    So yes I can come up with half a dozen Xtians that are friends and a lot more who's just Xtian on paper but don't rally care.

  11. The Bible is not a friend of LGBT (or women). The type of Christian that doesn't strictly follow the Bible, that attempts to identify and extract the good bits, while leaving behind the cruft … those can be allies and friends. The kind who try to hate the sin but hate the sinner, who try to reach that impossible balance of being a good person with being a Biblically inerrant person … those will never be true friends or allies.

  12. Honestly, I was raised Catholic, I come from a very Catholic country, and growing up I was only allowed to interact with other Catholics. I've had a lot of experience with Catholics, and then other Chrsitians, and I gotta say, as queer person, it's really too uncomfortable for me to be friends with Christians. I'm sorry, but the amount of homo- and trans- phobia I've experienced, plus the general way Christianity presents itself in relation to LGBT people has really…traumatized me I guess to the point where I don't want to associate with Christians.

  13. I just think there is a lot that the lgbtq community has to feel wary of when it comes to organised religion. Obvs everyone should be free to worship but many Abrahamic religions also push a conversion agenda or preach that who you are is inherently wrong/sinful which is a problem for us.

  14. really agree with you on the fact that although religion is not for me it is good for a lot of other people. I'm tired of hearing the whole "religion only causes war" type preaching. People who say that are ignoring all the people who have turned to religion and spirituality to help them stop living negatively, etc.

  15. Sometimes I see people being shocked when I explain that I am muslim and okay with the lgbtq+ community (especially because I live in France I guess). I mean Islam make us learn not to judge others and as long as it doesn't harm nobody then it's none of my buisiness what people do whith their life ๐Ÿ™‚ I have friends being a part of this community and it often leads to really interesting discussions around this topic ๐Ÿ™‚

  16. Just remember, the building and denominations are all a man concept! Just think what would Jesus do Galatians 3:28

  17. You want to know what hell is? Being trans and atheist in a muslim society. It's funny because everyone around you think you deserve to die and they don't mind saying that to you, literally tell you that the country doesn't accept "people like you", yet you are struggling to convince yourself that you are worthy.. just unbearable.

  18. I'm LGBT and Christian. I agree with Kat, it's all about respecting each person's beliefs, lifestyles, identities. For the Christians who take the mission of converting people very seriously, I'd say follow the Lord's word, be kind, be respectful of boundaries, and listen. Pray for people to be the best version of themselves, in whatever shape that is, with whatever practices. The Lord puts people on your way, not for you to impose your beliefs on them, but for you to learn new lessons and see more beauty. Be open to them. Listen, instead of explaining. Maybe you're the one who needs to be taught something of value. And if that still doesn't bring you peace of mind, find comfort in the idea that your openness, respect and kindness will be the best ways to show them the way to the Lord.

  19. I agree with everything you said except for the sugar grits part. I rebuke sugar grits in the name of good taste and Lawrys Seasoning Salt.

    Also, I used to be a Christian and I found myself being so annoyed by people who automatically assumed that I some prejudice against them. (So, you just going to judge me because you think that I'm judgmental? Oh, okay).

    It was like boo, get over yourself. I choose this faith because I'm trying to get myself together. In Beyonce voice I ain't thinkin' 'bout you!

  20. Tbh my poor experiences with christians, christianity, and having a very homophobic & transphobic christian family has just made me completely mistrust christians as a whole. Like I'm an agnostic witch who's very open about their faith and I feel like I can't be open with my faith or who I am (agender & bisexual) without worrying about judgment from christians so I usually don't bother with them. If they are accepting of my religious beliefs & who I am then I honestly couldn't give a shit what they believe in, hell I've met satanist who are overall great people before, but I tend to find that's a rare experience when it comes to christians moreso than anyone else. Mind you, I live in the south so that's probably a big factor in why that is too.

  21. im an atheist, and i work with the public. when people offer their "god bless you"s i generally accept them gladly. i will awkwardly reply you as well, and give them a warm smile in response. i genuinely feel good when people say something nice to me and to them that is about as nice as it gets. they are getting their supreme being to bless me. xD

  22. Because of the history Christianity and its oppression of LGBTQ people, Christians should probably expect many LGBTQ people to be wary of them.

    Christianity is still used as justification for oppressing LGBTQ people the world over. In North America, States and Provinces with larger numbers of devout Christians tend to be anti LGBTQ; they create laws designed to hurt us and leave us vulnerable.

    So, it shouldn't be surprising that many LGBTQ people would feel uncomfortable around Christians, even when they are LGBTQ. And just because Christians say that they respect LGBTQ people, doesn't mean that they don't view us sinners.

  23. As a queer person, I am friends with Christians, Muslims and Jews and they never try to coax me into their religious beliefs. Granted, they always answer my questions when I'm curious about one of their beliefs/practices, but they never take advantage of that as an opportunity to convert me or anything. The only group of people I've had problems with are my religious family members who often are on a mission (pun intended) to convert people. I mean, I used to be a Christian zealot myself and tried talking my friends into church because I was under the assumption that they'd go to Hell if they weren't Christians. Eventually i parted from religion but I still respect it. I even still sing some of the songs once in awhile because it in some ways is still a part of my life that I'm connected to.

  24. I grew up somewhat conservative Christian, then started attending an open and affirming church that did not preach that being lgbt was a sin and had openly lgbt people as ministers, members etc. They marched at pride parade.

    All that being said I don't go there anymore because of some various problems I had there not necessarily related to me being queer… that's a long story.

  25. i'm a queer agnostic person who lives in the deep south and basically nearly every friend i have ever had here has been christian, mostly because you kind of can't avoid it, you know? most of them are also cishet. i do have some lgbt christian friends (because, as i said, hard to avoid it in the deep south) and i've never really wondered "oh are they going to start preaching to me?" or really been super suspicious of or whatever; i save that for my cishet friends lmao (which, tbh, is not unwarranted). i think it really depends on your environment and your experiences. i can understand if secular lgbt people would be hesitant around their religious lgbt friends in less religious areas but y'all i'm just happy to HAVE other lgbt friends where i live, you know? i mean i know plenty online but it's different having someone in the "community" physically close to you.

    so, to the original asker, i would say, don't worry about it so much. as long as you don't start preaching or witnessing then you should be fine and if your friends have a problem with that then that's THEIR problem and you should probably rethink your friendship anyway.

  26. I'm an Episcopalian. I'm part of (in my opinion) one of the most open and accepting branches of Christianity. There is a gay pride flag in front of my church, and there is a lesbian couple that attends every week. We learn about helping others, never once have I been told to discriminate against anyone. It's really only certain people that practice certain branches of Christianity that are enemies of the LGBT community.

  27. yes theys can but Muslims? sorry no it forbidden to be a gay and a lesbain in Islam sorry aboutss that, thansk, Suq-Al-Madiq.

  28. Going to a private Christian highschool that taught homophobia and transphobia as a queer person, I've found there are very interesting types of Christians when it comes to LGBTQIA+ friendliness. There were of course just flat-out homophobic/transphobic people, and there were Christians who were genuinely supportive of me and the LGBTQIA+ community. But then there were people who seemed to only hang around me so they could seem more "cool" or "progressive", but still were against me as a person. they actually bothered me the most because they were being fake and using me for their own image. They would also claim they "loved" me by telling me that I was sinning and needed to change, because they "cared" about me. It really bothered me because they didn't even realize how much they hurt me. But I luckily only hung out with people i knew were genuinely my friends lol

  29. I wonder how many people do try to convert others that aren't missionaries. I don't expect people to "welcome Jesus Christ into your heart" as a pretty devout Roman Catholic and as a queer person(ace and nonbinary). People devote their time and energy into other things which doesn't always need religious beliefs just common sense.

  30. Hi! I'm a new subscriber. I too grew up and was educated like you were (for me in the South). I'm closer to agnostic than atheist now, but other than that I feel the same as you do about the whole thing. My childhood was a lot of "sinner" repent" "damnation" But my Christian friends are all about love and support, so we're cool hanging out together. Looking forward to watching more videos…There's a lot to catch up on, lol.

  31. This was the best response to religion from an atheist I have ever heard. I'm a Christian and I never force my religion on anyone but when I tell my friends in Christian I get constant bashing from my atheist and secular friends. Hearing this from you has given me hope in the world honestly thank you.

  32. im Christian and queer and it certainly isn't a bunch of honesty because my church. but i still know that despite what people say my sexual/romantic orientation doesn't determine my "sin factor"

  33. Can I just say, I respect you so much, your videos are poppin' lol, and I love your tea! I loved when you said that your belief should be something YOU come to choose bc I really support that. I think a lot of people needed to hear this (your video) especially the part about not shoving their beliefs on other people. I've always loved learning about other beliefs and world views. I'm happily subbed to your channel, keep it up girl๐Ÿ’•

  34. I'm part of the LGBT community (Bisexual), and have Christian friends. As long as you're respectful and have a great personality then we're cool!

  35. Basically, a healthy lgbtqa religious attachment is one where the denomination doesn't believe being ins the spectrum is a sin (which is becoming more common, especially among groups like Methodist)
    So having friends that would low key be like ooh you're a sinner but I love you or trying to somehow weight their presumed sin of gayness as higher than other sins is where there's a problem (and potentially unhealthy relationship)

    Basically, going to an educated church that looks at the bible from the standpoint of "written by a bunch of manipulative men who got to chose what went in" combined with how translations are often manipulated for personal gain (the bible's been used to support slavery and anti gay rhetoric most specifically in translation edits) is where anyone on the lgbtqa spectrum should go if you want to stay connected to whatever religion you hold.
    So if you are Christian or Jewish I KNOW there are churches that understand and respect lgbtqa: go to those.

  36. Can I just Say How much I Really Love Kat ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’™ I Find Her Hilarious ๐Ÿ˜‚ I really Respect Kat Blaque โ˜บ๏ธ I'm am Not against the Atheism. I think it's Nice for Everyone to have their own opinions. I Just Wish these Religious people would be a lot Nicer and Not Focuses Religion onto others ๐Ÿ˜” I Think there is a Higher Power above Us. But I think the Bible could be Miss Correct โœ For Obvious reasons ๐Ÿ™„ Anyways Love your YouTube Channel Kat!

  37. My issue with religion is that I'm not sure it's possible to live in a world where people keep it to themselves and it doesn't affect others. The truth is that religious beliefs shape our outlooks, morals, etc. and therefore our actions. When religious people are put into positions where they are making impacts on the lives of others (doctors, social workers, lawyers, etc.) it's really important that they not let their religion get in the way of that. Unfortunately it does for many, and it has an impact on us all. Of course there's the argument that, "not ALL religious people are like that!," but it's enough that we're still struggling with abortion rights, LGBT* rights, and so on. Of course some people who are against these things are not religious, but I have literally never heard of someone being against women's rights of gay rights BECAUSE they are an atheist. It's because they're just sexist, racist, or whatever, and that has to be combatted, too. I cannot say the same about christianity or many other religions, though. So many people are racist/sexist/whatever BECAUSE of their religious beliefs. You can say that they're just misinterpreting their respective religious texts, but that's just simply not true. Firstly, many of these things are actually written into the texts. Secondly, your interpretation is not somehow totally more justified than theirs, and even if it was, there are enough people who do believe that their religion condones such actions that it doesn't matter the true, real, original, divine, whatever, meaning of the text, it matters how they interpret it and use it against others, and that their bigotry is protected by "religious freedom."

  38. hey christian kid and very much lgbt+ here! In short and in my own experience yes, christians can be members of the lgbt+ community and allies (a couple of my mum's friends even set up a group of such called accepting evangelicals, focusing on a typically intolerant branch of the church) however it can be incredibly alienating, both to be christian and lgbt but also vice versa, particularly as quite anti-christian statements are often spread in reply to hateful christian types. As a result a lot of Christian lgbt folks feel they have to choose an alleigiance between the two parts of their identity.

    *disclaimer i am fully aware that as a christian in a christian country i am privileged enough that my religious beliefs do not ever alienate me otherwise

  39. She really guzzles delicately on that mug…like a lady, not at all like a truck driver. Social Justice is a farce. I'm not being rude, but there are real problems in the world. Stop making up problems because you all are bored.

  40. If they're willing to keep their religion to themselves, then yes. If they want to dictate our sex lives and allow businesses to discriminate against us, then no. Same applies to any other religion that isn't accepting of homosexuality.

    And yes, Christianity is not accepting of it, the same way it isn't accepting of anything else it deems sinful. Seeking forgiveness for your sins is something that's encouraged, but how do you seek forgiveness for being gay while being married to someone of the same sex? That doesn't make sense.

  41. hi kat, i just wanted to say i adore you and your channel! you are so down to earth and i really appreciate that. you're just super cool!

  42. I identify as a Christian because I believe in God and in Christ, but I don't practice any organized religion. I was raised in the LDS church, and I am grateful for how it helped shape my life, but as a queer person I just don't agree with some of the doctrine. I've always told myself that I wouldn't go back until I as a queer woman could be sealed with my transgender girlfriend in the temple. Some day it might happen, but I'm not holding my breath. No institution is perfect, and no religion is 100% true, so I highly doubt I'll ever find a church that I feel good attending.

  43. I really appreciate your perspective. Although I consider us almost opposite (I'm Christian, you're atheist) I feel like we fave very similar feelings. I'm not going to deconstruct anyone's beliefs (or lack thereof ), but mine need to be respected as well. And I'm not going to try to convince anyone of anything, mainly because I think it is a waste of time and effort.

  44. LOL!!๐Ÿ˜„
    I feel Ya Gal, my dad was a Lutheran reverend and the religious aspect was shoved down my throat growing-up and up until I was about 30, then it seemed to lighten-up because the churches in Kelso are more laid-back, so I was free to explore other religions and the truth behind Christianity because almost 2/3's of the doctrines formerly-used in Christianity have only been discovered and published in the last 100 years because they've discovered them in S. America and the Mayan region instead of what was translated originally back in 631ad by the Catholic Church which is who brought the old & new testaments Christians use, but the Mormons use the scriptures translated from the Mayan region (book of Mormon and Pearl of great price & Doctrine of covenants) on top of the bible.

  45. Kat, about the letter being pushed through the door, you should expect that could happen again (and not just with religious pamphlets but also sales pitches, et cetera). I say this because since it is illegal (federally) to put non-US post in mailboxes, people will shove things in the door instead.

  46. Kat could you please talk about this

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Hawaii/comments/4zz9r0/woman_berates_lyft_driver_over_hawaiian_woman

  47. If I have to sit through a two hour church service to enjoy that barbecue, than you're going to have sit through that two hour service to get those ribs!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Gurl….You tried it!

    Also grits with sugar is Cream of wheat!

  48. As A Catholic i believe LGBT people are loved by God as much as any.
    I do feel it's Christian majority countries that are leading the way in LGBT rights.
    Take Ireland for example!
    However, we are seeing about 10 countries worldwide which murder LGBT people legally through the courts, all Muslim majority, these people are forgotten.

  49. I loved this video and all your other videos! You seem like a Beautiful person!! Can you do a video on how you became Atheist?

  50. I grew up with an atheist father (I didn't know he was an atheist as a kid, I just knew he was a busy worker who didn't go to church) and my mother is a spiritual sort of person who took me to a very open and accepting unitarian church which welcomed people of all faiths to come and form a loving community. I am now an atheist but this upbringing has led me to find beauty in all types of beliefs. Later on my mom sent me to a christian summer daycare program because a friend was going and she thought I would enjoy being at the same daycare as that friend. This was held by a very aggressive church that preached harshly about the evils of sin to small children and it scared me. I have anxiety problems and I started fearing that if I accidentally doubted god my family would get smited. None of the Christians from our church ever spoke to me that way so this was all surprising to me. My point is that I have seen too many sides of religion to generalize about it and I guess I am thankful for that.

  51. I'm a Christian, and I FREAKING DRAW LESBINS. I am MOST OF THE TIME STRAIGHT. And I don't care about who you love, what you believe, what your weight is, skin colour is, etc I only care if you have a good heart.

  52. People in Christian churches preaching about following every single thing written in Leveticus and Deuteronomy even if you disrespect and hate others do not know neither the Bible nor Jesus… Love God, yourself and others , do not judge others if you donโ€™t want to be judged are the over whole message of Christianity, not ยซย donโ€™t have sex before marriageย ยป or donโ€™t be gay… Please forgive Christian people who are violent and hateful… weโ€™re just humans after all

  53. Sure Christians can be supportive but why not skip the whole thing, I donโ€™t need Christianity be happy, healthy and LGBT. I thank everyone who is supportive but that should be a given.

  54. So you don't like people forcing their religions on you, yet you want to force all people to abide by using selective pronouns, all people who agree with equality between the sexes to buy into the ideology of femanjsam and force those who don't agree with gay marriage to recognise gay couples. Seems quite a double standard

  55. You were raised Christian but completely deny the existence of God?
    Or do you mean agnostic? Cause it's quite hard for me to believe that you'd even…

  56. I am a Christian but im fully supportive of the lgbtq community and have heaps of friends who are. It's just hard because im taught about only man and woman not man and man so i have no idea what to think becasue its kinda against my religion but i see nothing wrong with the lgbtq community sooo.

  57. There is a very simple answer to this question imo. The answer is yes, because most Christians don't follow their religion 100% literally as it was written in the Bible. Virtually everyone cherry picks the parts they like, and ignore the parts they dislike. That or they don't read the Bible much directly at all and just believe what their church tells them. This is actually the most common position. For this reason many modern Christians are fairly open minded to LGBTQ+ people, but many of them still hold onto the ideas it is a sin despite this.

    I live in the Bible Belt. Christianity has been forced into my face since I was born to my current age 30. It is completely inescapable. I used to have someone knock on my door 2-3xs a week to ask about Jesus. This turned me into a militant atheist very fast. I also have many experiences talking with deeply religious people. It seems to me that most deeply religious people can be relatively tolerant of others, but deep down they think negatively of us. I know for a fact most of them think I'm going to hell for being an atheist. They also think the same for anyone LGBTQ+ or from a different religion. While this isn't nearly as bad as explicit discrimination I'm still hugely put off by these people when I see it. I'm also always suspicious of religious people for this reason.

    Lastly, I actually found some of your "not that kind of atheist" things a little silly. Those kind of atheists rarely if ever exist, and the ones that do usually are so few and far between most people never interact with them. Then when we compare it to the religious people in your face it's probably 100 to 1 in favor of in your face religious people. This is something I think we really should acknowledge is just a case of how society still sees being atheist as taboo. Atheists are expected to walk on egg shells and make sure to never offend religious people. If they do they're called neckbeards or other really stupid names. However, religious people do it constantly. I drive by signs telling me I'm going to hell if I don't find God on a daily basis. I've never seen a sign which says there is no god. For me, it would probably be beneficial to be lenient on atheists occasionally stepping over the lines of decency the same way we do for any other group that is marginalized in society. Also, before anyone protests, yes, atheists are literally a marginalized community in America. We make up like 13% at best and it's still illegal to hold government office in many states as well as systemic hiring and promotion discrimination and more. For this reason atheists should be given some slack and allowed to push the lines in an effort to level the playing fields in the atheists vs theists discussion. Denying this for atheists is just conservatism in practice. People just don't want to admit is though.

  58. The bible doesnt say to hate anyone idk where people get this from. God is love anyone opposed to love and hate is against god . God's right hand people in the bible ex King David commited a lot of sins part of the 10 commandmrnts and God loved him dearly . God teaches us to love one another not hate we arent supposed to force people into believing god . so the " christains " say God hates fags are wrong and vice versa.

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